http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm200506/cmhansrd/cm051219/text/51219w73.htm あるいは http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2005-12-19c.38057.h （両者の顔写真あり） ＞Lynne Jones: To ask the Minister of State, Depart…